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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 13 Apr 01 Volume 18 : Issue 61
Today's Topics:
(Q) Using MacOS X and DSL
[*] Abstract for "Genetic Function Finder.sit.hqx"
[*] Cricket v6.0
[*] HTML-Optimizer 4.3
[*] HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3
[*] iArchive.img.hqx
[*] Jedit4.0.6 For Classic OS - Powerful Text Edito
[*] Jedit4.0.6 For Mac OS X - Powerful Text Editor
[*] Legendary Lair
[*] Lingo Library 1.3 Demo
[*] MIDI Pack'en v1.1.8
[*] NoteWorthy 1.1
[*] PcConverter 2.0 (PowerPC version)
[*] Prowler 2.1
[*] TaskMenuBar 2.4.0
[*] UltraMacBookmarks 2001
Aqua Blooper Piper
Correction: iMic, not iMac
Does ANYONE have Aqua Blooper Piper?
OS 9.1 upgrade problem
OS X--What's root password
OS X--What's root password
OS X--What's root password
Privileges under OS-9.1 ?
Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:26:53 -0500
From: "Hubert, Wesley R" <whubert@ku.edu>
To: digest@info-mac.org, "'Alan Stein'" <a.stein@snet.net>
Subject: (Q) Using MacOS X and DSL
The short answers: Enternet 300 won't work under OSX. (See
http://support.efficient.com/KB/NTS/macintosh.html ("We plan to support OS X
in a future release, but we have no firm date to expect this.")) OSX has
built-in support for DSL, including PPPoE, so you probably won't need
Enternet.
Here are the steps to configure for SBC's DSL service:
Select "System Preferences" from the dock (or OSX:Applications if you've
removed it from the dock)
Select "Network"
In the "Configure" pop-up menu select "Built-in Ethernet"
Under the "TCP/IP" tab you'll probably want "Using DHCP" (depending on your
service)
Under the "PPPoE" tab enter (at least) your Account Name and Password.
You'll probably also want to use the "PPPoE Options" button. With it you can
set automatic connections, turn off the default disconnect and warning
prompts that occur after 15 minutes idle time (assuming you want a
continuous connection).
Overall, I miss availability of some of the information Enternet could show,
but find the built-in DSL/PPPoE support more than adequate and probably a
bit faster.
--Wes Hubert <whubert@mac.com>
> ----------
> From: Alan Stein
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:18 AM
> To: digest@info-mac.org
> Subject: (Q) Using MacOS X and DSL
>
> I currently connect via DSL through SNET. Under MacOS 9, the
> connection requires an application called Enternet 300. My question
> is whether anyone knows whether that application will continue to
> work under MacOS X and, if it won't, whether it will still be
> possible to use the DSL connection under MacOS X and, if so, how?
> --
> Alan Stein a.stein@snet.net
>
>
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: "Aaron Golden" <zerro1@hotmail.com>
To:
Subject: [*] Abstract for "Genetic Function Finder.sit.hqx"
Genetic Function Finder by Aaron Golden
Contents
-What is GFF? (Genetic Function Finder)
-How does GFF work?
-How to use GFF
-Limitations
-Random Function Finder
-FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
-Comments
What is GFF? (Genetic Function Finder)
Genetic Function Finder is a program that searches for a function that will
produce certain points on a two dimensional coordinate plain. For example,
the function 'y = x' produces the points (1, 1), (2, 2), etc. Genetic
Function Finder uses a survival of the fittest environment, to evolve the
correct function by random mutations. The point of GFF isn't really to find
the correct function, but to demonstrate a kind of evolution.
How does GFF work?
Genetic Function Finder starts by taking three points (given by the user)
and generating ten random arithmetic strings. Then GFF evaluates each
string and finds its value for each point. For example the string 'x+1'
would yield '1' if 'x = 0', '2' if 'x = 1', '3' if 'x = 2'. GFF finds the
difference between the results of each string, and the 'y' values for each
point the user gave it.
Here's an example:
1. The user gives the points: (1, 2) (2, 3) (3, 4)
2. GFF produces a string, S: 'x + x - 2'
If 'x = 1' then 'S = 1 + 1 - 2 = 0'
If 'x = 2' then 'S = 2 + 2 - 2 = 2'
If 'x = 3' then 'S = 3 + 3 - 2 = 4'
3. GFF finds the difference between the results of the random string, and
the real results.
Random string yields: 0, 2, 4.
Real results are: 2, 3, 4.
(2 - 0) + (3 - 2) + (4 - 4) = 3
The total error of this string was '3'.
4. GFF produces nine more strings and finds the total error of each of
them.
5. GFF then erases the strings with the largest five errors. (They die)
6. The best five strings from this generation are duplicated. (They
reproduce)
7. The duplicate strings are mutated randomly to stimulate evolution.
8. The process is repeated, generally getting better and better results each
generation until the correct string appears.
********** ABSTRACT CROPPED **********
[Archived as /info-mac/sci/generic-function-finder.hqx; 155 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Graham Randall <grandall@ntlworld.com>
To:
Subject: [*] Cricket v6.0
Yet more new features have been added in the latest version 6 of Cricket for the Macintosh
- The graphics have been vastly improved - you can even see how well the groundsmen have maintained the grass
- Returns can now come back to the bowler's end
- Fielding position names (mid wicket, square leg etc) can be added to the plan view
- Runs per over graph shows the progress (or the collapse) of the innings
- A partnership graph has also been added to the set of statistics
- All the teams data has been updated with the latest players and their averages
and a new Web site has been set up at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/grandall
This upgraded version of the cricket game remains exclusive to the Mac and has impressive bowling sequences (both fast and spin) derived from the real-life action of world famous test bowlers. You still need to have quick reactions to score runs against the bowling attack which ranges from fast to cunning spin but as your confidence grows, you will find that you can hit boundaries off the bad balls. The scoreboard at the ground records your progress and the scorecards can be called up at any time for a more detailed view of the innings.
In the full version of Cricket, each team can be selected from a squad of 15 players and you need to assess the bowling and batting performance of the players to improve your team's performance. Batsmen with lower batting averages are more likely to give catches as they try for runs - and make sure you rest your bowlers from time to time so they can keep up a good line and length.
G Randall
grandall@ntlworld.com
[Archived as /info-mac/game/cricket-60.hqx; 1778 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Ton Brand <ton_brand@spidernet.nl>
To:
Subject: [*] HTML-Optimizer 4.3
HTML-Optimizer 4.3
What it is: Tool to check and optimize your web pages incl. images.
Author: Ton Brand
Company: Ton's Software
License: Shareware US$10
Computer: PowerPC or iMac
Mac OS: 7.5.3 or later
Abstract:
HTML-Optimizer is the ideal tool for managing your web site. It checks your
web pages for broken links and dangling tags and optimizes both text and
graphic files.
The program offers 5 functions plus a number of useful options that make
working with HTML-Optimizer very easy. Especially the new 'duplimize'
feature comes in handy for uploading an optimized web folder. The program
has a built-in Manual and Balloon Help is supported too.
The five basic functions of HTML-Optimizer are:
1. Optimizing HTML code by removing unnecessary characters and tags, which
results in faster loading of your pages in your client's browser. Embedded
script code, e.g. JavaScript, is not ruined. Graphic file resources, which
are of no use on the web, are removed, saving 10 to 80 % of space.
2. Checking the so called tagged pairs, i.e. the tags that always have to
appear together with their end tags. Further, IMG tags are checked for
Width, Height and Alt attributes. Missing attributes are added with values
which are automatically detected.
3. Checking the validity of the internal hyperlinks, 8 levels deep.
4. Marking dangling tags and missing attributes to find and fix them
quickly.
5. Converting special characters to the &....; notation.
Version 4.3 adds an Open Text File menu and a zoom box for better viewing
the text field. Some minor bugs have been fixed too.
[Archived as /info-mac/text/html/html-optimizer-43.hqx; 1215 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Ton Brand <ton_brand@spidernet.nl>
To:
Subject: [*] HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3
HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3
What it is: Tool to check and optimize up to 16 web sites.
Author: Ton Brand
Company: Ton's Software
License: Shareware US$15
Computer: PowerPC or iMac
Mac OS: 7.5.3 or later (for remote access Mac OS 8.6 or later is required)
Abstract:
HTML-OptimizerPlus is the ideal tool for managing one or more (max. 16) web
sites, to make sure that all web pages and graphic files are optimized,
without broken links or dangling tags.
The program offers 5 functions and supports drag & drop via its Helper
application HTML-Dropper. Further it offers various upload and download
capabilities plus other useful options that make working with
HTML-OptimizerPlus very easy. Especially the new 'duplimize' feature comes
in handy for uploading an optimized web folder. The program has a built-in
Manual and Balloon Help is supported too.
The five basic functions of HTML-OptimizerPlus are:
1. Optimizing HTML code by removing unnecessary characters and tags, which
results in faster loading of your pages in your client's browser. Embedded
script code, e.g. JavaScript, is not ruined. Graphic file resources, which
are of no use on the web, are removed, saving 10 to 80 % of space.
2. Checking the so called tagged pairs, i.e. the tags that always have to
appear together with their end tags. Further, IMG tags are checked for
Width, Height and Alt attributes. Missing attributes are added with values
which are automatically detected.
3. Checking the validity of the internal hyperlinks, 8 levels deep.
4. Marking dangling tags and missing attributes to find and fix them
quickly.
5. Converting special characters to the &....; notation.
Version 2.3 adds an Open Text File menu and a zoom box for better viewing
the text field. Some minor bugs have been fixed too.
[Archived as /info-mac/text/html/html-optimizer-plus-23.hqx; 1627 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Jan Bruyndonckx <jbruyndonckx@tripticdesign.com>
To:
Subject: [*] iArchive.img.hqx
iArchive by Triptic Design
Archive your valuable documents using affordable internet storage. Storage is provided by FilePool on a redundant array of secure servers.
The iArchive application has powerful filter capabilities to archive exactly the files you want. You can restore a full hard disk, individual files or folder. You can even restore to a previous version of a file.
Apple Help is incorporated in every window.
Storage costs $0.25 per Megabyte. Professional Services (including higher transfer speed and encryption) cost $20 additionally.
Recommended system: any Apple Macintosh with MacOS 9
Minimum system: a Power Macintosh with MacOS 8.6
[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/iarchive.hqx; 1585 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: MATSUMOTO Satoshi <satoshi@matsumoto.co.jp>
To:
Subject: [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Classic OS - Powerful Text Edito
The English version of the popular text editor in Japan.
Supports AppleScript, Multi-Style, Split Editing Window, Multiple
Undo, HTML Coloring, Sherlock FCB Search, Book Marking, Paragraph
Formatting, Object Embedding (image, sound, Quicktime Movie and
alias), Macro Menus, Read out and Recording, Summarizing, Unicode,
Print preview, Sorting etc. Jedit is shareware: 2500 Japanese Yen
(about $25)
In Rev4.0.6, several bugs have been fixed.
System Requirement:
+ Mac OS 8.5 or later
+ Power Macintosh
For more, visit our Web site:
http://www02.matsumoto.co.jp/product/Jedit4/index_E.html
[Archived as /info-mac/text/jedit-406.hqx; 2661 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: MATSUMOTO Satoshi <satoshi@matsumoto.co.jp>
To:
Subject: [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Mac OS X - Powerful Text Editor
The English version of the popular text editor in Japan.
Supports AppleScript, Multi-Style, Split Editing Window, Multiple
Undo, HTML Coloring, Book Marking, Paragraph Formatting,
Object Embedding (image, sound, Quicktime Movie and alias),
Macro Menus, Read out and Recording, Unicode, Print Preview,
Sorting etc. Jedit is shareware: 2500 Japanese Yen (about $25)
Carbon application. This package supports SavePanel, 128x128dot Icon,
and multi-language (English and Japanese).
In Rev4.0.6,it has been adjusted for Mac OS X Product Version
(Build4K78), supports the mouse wheel scroll and many other
improvements have been conducted.
System Requirement:
+ Mac OS X Product Version (Build4K78) or later
+ Power Macintosh
For more, visit our Web site:
http://www02.matsumoto.co.jp/product/Jedit4/index_E.html
[Archived as /info-mac/text/jedit-406-x.hqx; 3110 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Robert Steely <legendarylair@nc.rr.com>
To:
Subject: [*] Legendary Lair
File Name: legendary-lair-10b3.hqx
Program Name: Legendary Lair
Version: 1.0.0b3
Creation Date: 3 April 2001
System Requirements: Any PowerPC Mac with Mac OS 7.6.1 or higher,
22 Mb of free RAM, and monitor with minimum resolution of
640 X 480 at 256 colors.
Description: Legendary Lair is a strategic, adventure game where
the player battles intelligent monsters through an infinite
number of computer generated dungeons. It features built-in
monster and object editors, auto-mapping, and highly randomized
game play. Legendary Lair is shareware.
Directory: /game/adv/
Distribution: This version of Legendary Lair is beta. Please do
not distribute on CD. The final version CAN be distributed on
CD when available.
Author: Robert L. Steely
E-mail: legendarylair@nc.rr.com
Web: www.legendarylair.fanspace.com
[Archived as /info-mac/game/legendary-lair-10b3.hqx; 7187 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Kris <kris.heemvelt@whitemedia.com>
To:
Subject: [*] Lingo Library 1.3 Demo
Lingo Library 1.3
Lingo is the powerful object oriented scripting Macromedia Director uses.
The Lingo Library adds a diversity of useful Lingo functions to the basic
Lingo syntax and offers a set of behaviors to ease the development of
Shockwave and Director applications.
What's new in this version:
- Optimized several functions
- Completed the documentation
- Extended the Demo
For more information, visit the Whitemedia website
http://www.whitemedia.com
Or send us an e-mail:
info@whitmedia.com
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/lingo-library-13.hqx; 206 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Takashi Suzuki <setsu@tcp-ip.or.jp>
To:
Subject: [*] MIDI Pack'en v1.1.8
MIDI Pack'en is an application for the Macintosh which allows you to keep
system exclusive data in files. (Universal MIDI Librarian)
When this application receives system exclusive MIDI data, new window will open
and show you the data size and manufacturer. MIDI Pack'en can handle any kind
of system exclusive data.
What's Changed :
- May crash when you close some window -> fixed.
Features :
- Fat Binary.
- Apple Script recordable.
- Macintosh Drag and Drop support.
- Inline input support for Japanese text.
- Navigation Services support. (PowerPC Only)
This application requires :
- Macintosh with 68020 or higher / PowerPC
- System7 + QuickTime or System7.1 or later
- Apple MIDI Manager or OMS
-- T.Suzuki
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/midi/midi-packen-118.hqx; 201 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Steven Horst <shorst@intelli-gents.com>
To:
Subject: [*] NoteWorthy 1.1
NoteWorthy Virtual Notecards 1.1 Update (update to commercial $89
product, 45-day trial available)
This file contains version 1.1 of NoteWorthy Virtual Notecards(tm)
from IntelliGents. (http://www.intelli-gents.com) It contains ONLY
the update of the application, and NOT the full installer with
documentation and plug-ins. (This installer is too large for the
info-mac site guidelines, and can be downloaded from the developer's
site, or from tucows.com or cnet.com.)
NoteWorthy is a relational database for notes, quotes and
bibliographic references. It is an essential tool for students,
teachers, or anyone whose work requires keeping a database of
research notes.
contact: sales@intelli-gents.com
[Archived as /info-mac/app/note-worthy-11.hqx; 4819 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Marco Bambini <marco@spiderlink.it>
To:
Subject: [*] PcConverter 2.0 (PowerPC version)
PcConverter offers you all kinds of tools you need to convert files from or
to many different formats.
You can use PcConverter to convert text files (also RTF files) from Windows
or Unix to MacOS, or you can use it to process your custom database files
or to automate the conversion of text files to html.
Different Operating Systems use different ASCII tables (a way to represent
characters) so, for example, when you try to open a Windows text files
with a MacOS application all the special characters are misinterpreted
and the result is a series of garbage characters.
To fix this drawback PcConverter comes with six different tables that
enable you to convert text files (Dos, Unix and Windows) and correctly use
them in your MacOS. This is only an example of what you can do with
PcConverter because you have also the ability to write your own conversion
tables to expand the PcConverter capabilities.
[Archived as /info-mac/text/pc-converter-20-ppc.hqx; 326 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Andrew Cunningham <andrewcunningham@mac.com>
To:
Subject: [*] Prowler 2.1
Prowler is an image browsing and management tool with an intuitive and
stylish interface. It's features include a full screen browser,
advanced slideshow (cross fades and the unique "scribble" function) and
powerful image organizational tools (image rotation, copying,
renaming). Prowler's aim is to present a collection of images in an
attractive way, either for personal browsing, showing off to friends,
or presentations.
Prowler supports all file image formats supported by the currently
installed version of QuickTime. These include PICT, JPEG, GIF etc.
Prowler is only US$15 shareware.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
So what's so great about Prowler?
There are many features that sets Prowler neck and tail ahead of the rest
of the pack;
- Prowler's has a unique and elegant interface; perfect for
presentations. No more of those drab gray buttons, lists and popup menus.
- Powerful image manipulation tools make it a perfect assistant to any
aspiring digital photographer.
- Prowler features a slideshow including all common features as well as
several unique features such as alpha fades and scribbling.
- The ability to create HTML image catalogs.
- Prowler isn't expensive.
[Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/prowler-21.hqx; 1439 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: Hugh Kawahara <kawahara@ix.netcom.com>
To:
Subject: [*] TaskMenuBar 2.4.0
TaskMenuBar is a control panel that uses the empty space on the
menu bar for many operations such as launching and switching
applications, and opening files. Because it only uses the menu bar,
unlike other utilities, it will never obscure or be obscured by other
windows.
The version 2.4.0 supports control strip modules (requires OS 8.5 or
later).
Requires System 7.1 or later including OS-8 and 9 with a 68K
or PPC processor.
Shareware fee: $15.
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/task-menu-bar-24.hqx; 193 K]
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Date: 12 Apr 2001
From: "Royce K. DeBow Sr." <RDBow@Pitnet.net>
To:
Subject: [*] UltraMacBookmarks 2001
Thank you for downloading the SHAREWARE list of the " UltraMacBookmarks' Now
you too can be a MacHead without the mess and fuss of visiting all those
sites to bookmark them. The file will work with both Int ernet Explorer and
Netscape1s Communicator 4.5x up. Although not tested the bookmarks should
work with all versions 4.0..x and up. Let me know when you try them.
This update has several NEW folders for quick surfing without opening the
larger MacHead's set. Many new listings.
$12 SHAREWARE 1500+ Bookmarks Apple oriented.
NEW!! NEW!!!
Included with this download are some Alert Sounds for your pleasure. these
can be put into your close system folder (instructions included) and then
activated for use in your regular Apple Alert Sounds or better yet use in
your Browser. They include such sayings as You've Got Mail, and Goodbye
and other such familiar ones. There is no charge for these recordings. I
know you'll enjoy them.
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/web/ultra-mac-bookmarks-2001.hqx; 186 K]
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:40:44 -0700
From: Andrew Merenbach <owner@techiegroup.com>
To: <digest@info-mac.org>
Subject: Aqua Blooper Piper
I remember that game! I got a Performa 600 years ago, and it came with a
Macintosh Demo Games CD. There's another game I can't seem to find, too:
WelTris.
--
Andrew Merenbach
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:05:52 -0700
From: Paul Brians <brians@mail.wsu.edu>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Correction: iMic, not iMac
Ooops. I mean "iMic," not "iMac."
>------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:46:17 -0700
>From: Paul Brians <brians@mail.wsu.edu>
>To: wsu-macusers-list@listproc.wsu.edu, digest@info-mac.org
>Subject: iMac adapter
>
>I recently inquired about getting line-level audio into a G4. The
>solution I found in the discussion forums on Apple's site is the
>Griffin iMac Adapter, a USB interface that costs $35 plus shipping.
>
><http://www.griffintechnology.com/audio/imic_main.html>
>
--
Paul Brians, Department of English
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-5020
brians@wsu.edu
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:50:50 -0700
From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Does ANYONE have Aqua Blooper Piper?
>I am after a game I once purchased around 8 years ago called:
>Aqua blooper Piper.
>
>It was either developed by Casady & Greene or were the main
>distributors. I have searched their website, all over the web, ftp,
>search engines , hotline, carracho ect.
>
>I cannot believe it's not out there somewhere..
>
>Unfortunately, I no longer have this piece of software but would like
>to obtain it for my kids as I recently found an old Mac in the garage
>which I would like to give to them.
>
>I would greatly appreciate it if you could e-mail it to me or point me
>in the right direction.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>pumpkin_king@ntlworld.com
>
I have a demo copy that I believe was distributed with an early Mac
Addict magazine issue. I recommend checking their archives. It
might still be there. The demo only has 3 levels and you exhaust it
pretty quickly.
--
-- Doug
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:01:12 -0400
From: John McGibney <nciccheck@yahoo.com>
To: <digest@info-mac.org>, <allmacs@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: OS 9.1 upgrade problem
I've tried upgrading to OS 9.1 on two machines with the same disasterous
results. In both instances the drive that has been upgraded is now
unbootable. If I try to boot from the drive after the upgrade the whole
machine freezes, but if I boot from another drive or a CD the machine boots
and the drive mounts with no problems.
One drive is a SCSI the other an ATA. Both were formatted with apple's disk
utility. Disk First aid shows no problems. I've tried updating the driver
for the disks. using an older driver for the disks but nothing has worked. i
installed the upgrade while running off the OS9 CD as the instructions
dictate.
Disk First Aid is version 8.6.
Drive setup is version 2.0.2 (and 2.0.3).
The only way to get the drive to remount is by reformatting it. But that
shouldn't matter because it mounts as long as its not the startup drive. At
this point I'm at a loss. Any suggestions?
John McGibney
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:00:56 +1200
From: Nigel Stanger <nstanger@infoscience.otago.ac.nz>
To: Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, <digest@info-mac.org>
Subject: OS X--What's root password
On 11/4/01 6:28 AM, Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> spake thus:
> The root password is the password selected when setting up the initial user on
> the Mac during the OS X install process.
NO! This is _not_ correct. The initial account is an _administrator_
account. This is very definitely _not_ the same thing as root. For one
thing, admin accounts do not have privileges to delete things in the Mac OS
X System directory. Only root can do this, which is why it is disabled by
default:
> Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call this account
> 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to the GUI screen. The way
> you access root functions is via su, as you've found.
The reason you can't call the initial account root is, well, because it
_isn't_ root :) --- root has already been created (with an "invalid"
password) by the time you get to the point of creating the first user. I
should also point out that you _can_ login as root from the main screen, but
you first have to change the password to something valid. I know this works
because I've done it.
> If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you are hosed
> with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a system generally means a
> re-install.
All you need to do is login with an admin account, run NetInfo Manager and
choose "Change root password" from the appropriate menu (can't remember
which one offhand). You will need to authenticate yourself as an
administrator, then you can set the root password to whatever you like.
Sorry about the shouting :)
--
Nigel Stanger, mailto:nstanger@infoscience.otago.ac.nz
Dept. of Information Science, http://strange.otago.ac.nz/
University of Otago, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND. XNS: =Nigel Stanger
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
-- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:06:19 -0400
From: Jude Giampaolo <jude@smellycat.com>
To: Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, digest@info-mac.org
Subject: OS X--What's root password
At 11:28 AM -0700 4/10/01, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>The root password is the password selected when setting up the initial
>user on the Mac during the OS X install process.
Not true.
>Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call this
>account 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to the GUI
>screen. The way you access root functions is via su, as you've found.
If you are an administrator you can set the root password with:
sudo passwd root
>If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you are
>hosed with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a system
>generally means a re-install. ON Unix systems with user partitions on
>separate disks, this is a recoverable, though time consuming error. I do
>not know what re-installing OSX onto a single partition will do to user
>files.
If you forget the password you can boot off of the install CD to reset it.
Its one of the menu options.
>
>There are hacker tools to gain root access once an account on the system
>has been compromised, but I've no clue what rootkits are available, if
>any, for OSX yet.
>
>> Subject:
>>
>> OS X--What's root password
>> From:
>>
>> "Marc Baime" <mbaime@gte.net>
>> Date:
>>
>> Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:21:07 GMT
>> To:
>>
>> comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org
>>
>>
>> When I bring up a terminal in OS X and try to su to root I have had no luck
>> guessing the password. What is it? Please email me at mbaime@gte.net.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Regards...Marc Baime
--
Jude Giampaolo
http://prozac.eeap.cwru.edu/jude/ "Corn Nog?"
jude@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu
jcg8@po.cwru.edu (Please, no HTML email)
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:01:57 +0000
From: Franck Horlaville <fhlist@online.co.ma>
To: digest@info-mac.org, mbaime@gte.net
Subject: OS X--What's root password
Under MacOS X you can't simply su and become root. It is deactivated
by default.
What you type is sudo myCommand
and it will ask you for your password (which is your regular password
if you're declared as admin).
If you want a shell with root to type in a lot of commands for instance, then
sudo tcsh
>The root password is the password selected when setting up the
>initial user on the Mac during the OS X install process.
>
>Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call
>this account 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to
>the GUI screen. The way you access root functions is via su, as
>you've found.
>
>If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you
>are hosed with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a
>system generally means a re-install. ON Unix systems with user
>partitions on separate disks, this is a recoverable, though time
>consuming error. I do not know what re-installing OSX onto a single
>partition will do to user files.
>
>There are hacker tools to gain root access once an account on the
>system has been compromised, but I've no clue what rootkits are
>available, if any, for OSX yet.
>
> > Subject:
> >
> > OS X--What's root password
> > From:
> >
> > "Marc Baime" <mbaime@gte.net>
> > Date:
> >
> > Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:21:07 GMT
> > To:
> >
> > comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org
> >
> >
> > When I bring up a terminal in OS X and try to su to root I have had no luck
> > guessing the password. What is it? Please email me at mbaime@gte.net.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards...Marc Baime
--
Franck Horlaville
Athena Online
+212 (0) 37 68 28 08
http://www.athena.online.co.ma/
mailto:info@athena.online.co.ma
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:11 +0200
From: Jean-Paul Roy <Jean-Paul.Roy@unice.fr>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Privileges under OS-9.1 ?
Security problem:
Can a user reboot a Mac on 9.1 and then delete
or access /Users files ?
We have to install a Mac under OS-X and share it
with a dozen of OS-X users, with private documents.
Thanks,
Jean-Paul Roy
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:34:16 -0400
From: ngpappas <ngpappas@nii.net>
To: "digest@info-mac.org" <digest@info-mac.org>
Subject: Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet
Thanks to the MANY people who responded to my request for help. Some pointed
out that the cable supplied was doubtless a crossover cable. And many
pointed out that I should get a router.
I got a Linksys Etherfast DSl/Cable Router for about $100. It solved the
problem, gave me the added security of a firewall, and allowed me to avoid
using the Verizon-supplied connection software completely. Avoiding the
Verizon software seem to have considerably improved download speed.
I am very pleased.
The Linksys product is great. I did need some help configuring it, but they
have 24 x 7 phone support, and if you call at 7:30 on Sunday morning, you
get a person. I also called once during the week and got a promise of a
call-back that never happened (but it was at my business, and maybe they did
call).
I am satisfied that I can use Verizon to get DSL, but I am very displeased
with their unhelpful and misleading responses to my questions. They could
give you basic advice about getting a router, but I suspect that they don't
want to encourage multiple computers sharing a line. This is especially a
risk for them since they let businesses (which usually have LANs) buy DSL
at prices that are not that much higher than the residential prices. Also
the software they give you seems designed to take make the average user
think that you have to use them as your portal to the web. I have my own
small ISP, and I am happy I can bypass the Verizon gateway completely.
Thanks for your help...
Nick Pappas
> ----------
> From: ngpappas
> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2001 9:54 PM
> To: digest@info-mac.org
> Subject: Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet
>
> At home and at work I use appletalk ethernet networks to connect my
> computers to each other and to printers using an ethernet hub. No
> problems.
>
> I ordered DSL at home and at work from Verizon. The Mac is supposed to
> connect to the DSL Modem via ethernet. It works fine if you connect the
> cable directly from the Mac to the modem. Doesn't work at all if you try
> to
> connect through the hub - even when the Mac and the modem are the only
> things connected to the hub.
>
> Verizon is predictably unhelpful ("we do not support ethernet network
> environments").
>
> Anybody got a clue how to make this work? Or should I just ship the whole
> mess back to Verizon and wait for broadband?
>
> Nick Pappas
>
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