Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #232 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Sun, 03 Jan 99 Volume 16 : Issue 232 Today's Topics: [*] People Lister 1.1b4 [*] People Lister 1.1b4 (Italian) - An addressbook (A) 3D cursors for the Mac (A) Home controls (RE) Memory Problems 8.5 and Bitsurfr Pro [A?] At Ease 2 and game CDs [A]: changing to HFS+ [A]: Floppy drive for PowerBook 100 [A]: Keyboard Woes Any LaserWriter Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions? Claris Import Problems CloseView missing in German OS 8 Color StyleWriter 2500 Difference between AV and non AV, differences between minitower and desktop Highlight colour changes? What gives? Home controls how to use two printers on a G3? Mac OS 8.5.1 slow....in a weird way! More freezes under 8.5 & 8.51 OS 8.5 Themes and Patterns OT/PPP with V90 modem palm pilots and other handheld's Speed of MacInTax 1998 Text Redraw Trouble with icons Use Mac OS Help! In 8.5, it's great! 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We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #232" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:05:32 -0700 From: cwatson@CAM.ORG Subject: [*] People Lister 1.1b4 People Lister 1.1b4 (Swedish version) - is an easy-to-use addressbook that helps you remember everything about the people you know: phone numbers, birthdays, email addresses, or anything else. It automatically reminds you when someone has a birthday coming up, so you'll never forget a birthday again! People Lister also makes it easy to send email to anyone. If you have trouble remembering birthdays and phone numbers, then People Lister can help you out! People Lister is shareware, and needs System 7.0 or better, and an 68020 or better (or PPC). [Archived as /info-mac/app/bus/people-lister-11b4-sv.hqx; 294K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:05:30 -0700 From: cwatson@CAM.ORG Subject: [*] People Lister 1.1b4 (Italian) - An addressbook People Lister 1.1b4 (Italian version) - is an easy-to-use addressbook that helps you remember everything about the people you know: phone numbers, birthdays, email addresses, or anything else. It automatically reminds you when someone has a birthday coming up, so you'll never forget a birthday again! People Lister also makes it easy to send email to anyone. If you have trouble remembering birthdays and phone numbers, then People Lister can help you out! People Lister is shareware, and needs System 7.0 or better, and an 68020 or better (or PPC). [Archived as /info-mac/app/bus/people-lister-11b4-it.hqx; 297K] ------------------------------ Date: 31 Dec 98 16:28:07 -0500 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: (A) 3D cursors for the Mac abrody@smart.net writes: >I love the 3-d >cursors that are possible with NT. Anybody daring enough a >programmer to make it available for the Mac? It would mean making >adding cursors to a Kaleidoscope-like control panel. abrody: Try the postcard ware "Cursor Animator". It's a Control Panel that allows you to replace the system cursors with a variety of alternates. You can add your own if they're not 3D enough for you or you just want more and different ones. I've got version 1.2 that runs fine on my wife's PB160 under 7.5.5 but won't run on my 7600 under 8.5. The contact info. provided is: =A91990 by Wilhelm M. Plotz SiedlungsstraBe 21 4222 St. Georgen a.d. Gusen Austria / Europe No eAddress is provided. I haven't checked the archive to see if there's a more recent version. - Scott Scott Beach Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 99 13:46:55 -0500 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: (A) Home controls Egidio Leitao writes: >I was wondering if anyone knows of a Mac software that can be used >to monitor and control household appliances, lamps, etc. If this type of >software exists, is it reliable? Egidio: I think what you're looking for is a Mac front end for X-10. Check this out: http://guide.apple.com/Lasso.acgi?-database=macosguide&-layout=CGI%20detail&-response=%2fussearch%2fdetail.html&-recid=35831&-search Scott Beach Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jan 99 15:36:01 -0500 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: (RE) Memory Problems >I use system 8.5.1 Int. English on a 4400 (HSF), 140 Mb, 256 kb level2, >no virtual memory, 4 mb Disk Cache. >Conflict Catcher keeps telling me that some system files use more memory >in the system heap at startup than they request, e.g. Apple CD Rom, Apple >Guide & Apple DataDetectors Extension 1.0.2. I've run Techtool and Norton >of course, and reinstalled the system. Nothing helps. Tom: I have all kinds of evil memory behaviour if I turn off virtual memory. It seems that the modern memory manager (or some such handler) doesn't cope well without v-mem turned on. I've checked with MemMapper to see what's going on and it appears that even when I launch only one application (MemMapper for instance) it doesn't use the first chunk of available RAM but leaves some empty and uses the next bit. This is a real nuisance for all those applications that don't want virtual memory turned on. I don't know of a fix. If you discover the secret perhaps you could keep me in mind. - Scott Beach, ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:08:52 +0100 From: glaston Subject: 8.5 and Bitsurfr Pro Is anybody running 8.5 with a Motorola Bitsurfr Pro ISDN TA? I have heard that it can't be done. Motorola discontinued the Bitsurfr ISDN and I can't find any support. I would very much like to hear from anybody who has tried 8.5 with the Bitsurfr ISDN or if anybody knows of another source to which I could direct my inquiry. As always, TIA Glaston -Mind how you go. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:17:12 -0500 From: shorton Subject: [A?] At Ease 2 and game CDs >Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:33:16 -0600 >From: Kevin Jones >Subject: [non-Answer] At Ease 2.0 and game CD's >Kevin Greenspan, D.C." wrote: >I have been having a problem on my IIci (I know it's ancient, don't rub >it in.) When in ATEase and a game is selected requiring the external 24x >CD-ROM to change the discs. It crashes or just won't let you eject the >current CD and change. >Kevin Jones replies: >The only thing worse than AtEase on a computer is my 3 and 4 year-old boys. >I had assorted ritual voodoo spells I chanted whenever I changed CDs or >users, and sometimes they even worked (AtEase seemed to have the most >trouble switching between the finder users and the finder destroyers, and >if I ejected all CDs and opened and closed the empty CD drive and sang an >Italian aria and was nice to my wife, then it usually wouldn't crash) . I >had decided, based on refusing to try any more to really fix it, that there >was exentsion problem between AtEase and my CD management utils (FWB). Then >I networked the boys' Performa 476 with my UMAX S900, and the old crashes >stopped--but now, I cannot reboot with both AtEase Startup and networking >active. No problem: I just told the 4-year-old the password to my AtEase >user account, and whenver he wants to shut down he must turn off Apple >Talk. Of course, now the 3 year-old wants to know the password, but he's >only interested in hacking the Web kid-proofing utils. He knows that if he >invokes enough restarts, Conflict Catcher will eventually kill of AtEase >for him... >(Applying the AtEase 2 updater did seem to help. I got it from some CD or >other, so it's probably on Apple's FTP site... somewhere.) >Bon chance. >KJ >Kevin Jones ** It was an absurd endeavor--and was crowned with >kevjones@cei.net ** the success common to many absurd endeavors... >Little Rock, AR ** --Fernando Arrabal I use At Ease 3.03 and the updater comes with an extension called At Ease CDROM prefs patch which, perhaps, is what clears up the problems you are experiencing. Interestingly, I also have a performa 476 networked (ehternet) to a UMAX S900 and it works well. I use FWB's CDROM toolkit 3.01 as the CD driver on both machines. File sharing starts at boot up automatically and the printer sharing works well too. Good luck, Scott Horton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:43:30 -0800 From: "Daniel O'Donnell" Subject: [A]: changing to HFS+ I recommend Alsoft's PlusMaker and PlusMaximizer; the bundle is available from for $39.95 and will probably be bundled with some of their other products at MacWorld (they always go). The company has been making Mac-only software for quite a long time, and their products are always useful and good. The details for these little utilities are available on their website, but the short story is this: PlusMaker allows "resetting" the format of a HFS disk to HFS+ without actually reformatting (!). This means the user doesn't have to reload all the software and files (a long process in most cases). PlusMaximizer additionally allows the further change of minimum block size from the Apple default to various increments including as small as .5KB. This happens during the "reset". Of course, have a backup (or two). Hope that helps, Dan O'Donnell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:32:27 -0800 From: Maurice Mike McNeil Subject: [A]: Floppy drive for PowerBook 100 > How about Zip drives? Could he use one of those instead? Either a Zip drive or a SuperDrive (reads 1.4M floppies) should work just fine with the correct adaptor ($24). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:19:59 -0800 From: Maurice Mike McNeil Subject: [A]: Keyboard Woes Make sure that Quicken did not install a copy of ObjectSupportLib in your System folder. This causes all sorts of problems including freezes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:34:33 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Clark Subject: Any LaserWriter Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions? Have you tried using just a LaserWriter Plus driver? Or maybe a generic driver? It seems that if one can print to a LaserWriter Plus, one should be able to print to a select? I seem to have been successful printing to a LaserWriter select on our campus network from System 8.5 but don't know just what I did (I am at home now so I can't check) --------------------------------------------------------------- "Apple is the only lifestyle brand in the industry," Ellison said. "People don't have that passion for Microsoft or Oracle." Thursday, October 30, 1997; Page E03 The Washington Post --------------------------------------------------------------- jim clark (jclark@utm.edu) math/cs ut martin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:51:23 EST From: Mercibeate@aol.com Subject: Claris Import Problems Hi All, I'm having problems importing text files into ClarisWorks 4.0. When attempting to import, I get an alert stating "The file "Text" couldn't be found." Any ideas on how to solve this? TIA, Rob See why we abandoned Los Angeles for Virginia! Check out http://members.aol.com/mercibeate/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 19:40:02 +0100 From: EdgarHaegele@t-online.de (Edgar Haegele) Subject: CloseView missing in German OS 8 Hello, I=91m running German Mac OS 8.1 on a UMAX Apus 3000. Since my vision is impaired, I need the CloseView control panel to magnify and invert the screen. Actually, CloseView was one of the main reasons for me to stick with the Mac platform. Unfortinately, recent German localizations of the Mac OS come without CloseView (I searched the CD ROM.). So I=91ve installed CloseView from my old US Mac OS 7.5., but this combination makes the system rather unstable - frequent screen freeezes. =93The application Finder has quitted unexpectedly.=94, as Norton Utiliti= es tells me. The old CloseView is definitely the culprit. At least, Conflict Catcher does think so. The CloseView version offered by Apple Co. for download on their Disability Connection web site is of no help, since it=91s even older and causes a system crash right at startup. Can anyone tell me, where to download a OS 8 compatible (US) version of CloseView? I guess, such an up-to-date US Closeviev would happily cohabitate with the German system software. Thanks & a happy new year! Edgar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:59:22 -0500 From: Roger Wise Subject: Color StyleWriter 2500 All of a sudden, when I try to print with my StylerWriter 2500 I get a message that says the ink cartridge is missing or not installed correctly. I have done the usual things, eg: trashed printer prefs; rebuild desktop; zapped pram; cleaned cartridge; and even put in new. Has anyone had this happen to them? What did you do? TIA Roger I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but WE are responsible for who we become. Roger Wise(rogerlou@dnsonline.net) Mac 6500 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:41:02 EST From: Luskin@aol.com Subject: Difference between AV and non AV, differences between minitower and desktop At some point in the not too distant future, I am buying another G3. I have always been perfectly happy with the monitor on top of the machine, and I either prefer it or am used to it. So what are the advantages of a minitower. It seems to me they are less convenient, where do you put it, and so forth. What is sgram. I am thinking about converting my huge record collection to cds, since many records are historic and not replaceable.. Is this a realistic goal, using a cd writer on a Macintosh, with my Marantz amp and preamp, or is it really not possible. Thanks for the attention. Michael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:29:53 -0800 From: Dieder Bylsma Subject: Highlight colour changes? What gives? Here's a puzzle: sometimes my higlight colour changes from turquoise to grey...and eventually resets itself (or not) back to turquoise. Any ideas why? Changing screen resolutions, changing colour depth doesn't seem to be able to revert to my 'user-defined' colour. This is under system 8.5.1 (also seen under 8.5) thx, Dieder -- Dieder Bylsma | ______________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:08:07 -0600 From: Gib Henry Subject: Home controls Consider MouseHouse, which operates BSR X-10 modules by RF control over the power lines. You use your Mac to establish a combination of fixed and variable schedules for various operations, then download the schedule to a device which stores and executes the schedule without need for the computer. There are gazillions of X-10 modules for lights, appliances, thermostats, telephones, burglar alarms, smoke detectors, garage doors, security locks, &c &c &c. They are marketed by Radio Shack, X-10, Stanley, and a bunch of lighting companies. There are also some AppleScripts on Info-Mac, but I regret I don't recall the names or locations of them. MouseHouse used to be published by Swing Software, but I recall they had a name change, and their old web site seems to have disappeared. You could try several resellers: http://smarthome.com/1400.html http://www.asihome.com/mac.html Hope this helps. Cheers, -- Gib Henry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:34:30 EST From: Luskin@aol.com Subject: how to use two printers on a G3? I have a G3 Mac, with an external modem. I use an Apple Personal Laserwriter, and also own an Apple Laser Writer II. At the moment, I have the Personal Laser Writer hooked to the G3. However, I have to change the forms trays very frequently, since I use several types of stationery, often in the same packet. The volume of printing is not high, usually less than fifteen pages a day, but it entails at least ten tray changes. I would like very much to have both printers attached to the G3, so that I could use them both. I would not want to print literally simultaneously, but would like to be able to change the printer to which I direct a print job through the chooser, or something like that. Much less trouble than changing the paper trays. I notice that both printers have, in addition to the eight pin cable jack, a 29 or 30 pin connection jack. Would it be possible to daisy chain them, give each a different name, and use the chooser to select which printer I use for a particular print job. Someone on the Mac-l list told me I could do it with three telephone wires (?), but gave me no more detail. The catalogs also have a switch for printers. Would these be of any assistance. Or is it just not possible to have two printers on a Macintosh. What does it mean to have the equipment networked. Could the computer and the printers be networked, with the G3 the sole computer on the network? So that I could easily direct a print job to either? The catalogs also have a USB switch for iMacs. Would I be able to use one of these, to hook the two printers up? Thank you for the attention and help. And I hope all have a wonderful New Year. Best regards, Michael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 19:30:28 -0600 From: "Peter J. Garlinski" Subject: Mac OS 8.5.1 slow....in a weird way! Ack! Mac OS 8.5.1 is running sssslllloooowwww......but here's the kicker. It only runs slow when I have the extensions OFF! It does this on an old 601 machine, a G3 tower, and an iMac!!! All have more then 64 megs of ram as well! They work just fine when I run 8.5.1 normally, with everything on....but when I hit to shift key (to install something), it crawls. Icons take forever to redraw, and menus are very slow. I can understand why it would be on a 601, but a G3!?!?!? Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas? Thanx! Peter garlinsk@lakes.com 1-888-312-5678 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 15:27:34 +0000 From: "Simon Hardeman" Subject: More freezes under 8.5 & 8.51 Is this just me? I'm running 8.51 on a PB 1400cs which behaved well with every system prior to 8.5. Now I get freezes if, in the file selector dialogue box in any program, I click too quickly to select a volume or folder. The cursor still moves, but the only way to make progress is to force quit the program. This then seems to leave a bug which necessitates a full restart. Very irritating. This happened in 8.5 too. Any suggestions? Simon ________________________________________________________________________ Get your free UK Internet account at http://www.themail.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:25:30 EST From: KingJohne@aol.com Subject: OS 8.5 Themes and Patterns I'm a few issues behind on my reading, so I hope this hasn't come up yet. If it has, I apologize. I've been adjusting the new Appearance Control Panel in 8.5.1 to fit my likes/dislikes. There are numerous patterns that I will NEVER use. However, unlike the earlier desktop patterns, I can't seem to remove these... they appear to be one with the system. Has anyone found a way to eliminate some of the patterns that come with 8.5? Second question involves the new "Themes" folder. There is one theme, Platinum. I have a "theme" from Kaleidoscope, and I would like to apply it to the Mac. I suspect this is impossible without Kaleidoscope. But for the bigger picture, is there a way to add themes? Thanks for any input on both questions. Regards, John King Des Moines, WA. kingjohne@gocougs.wsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jan 99 11:05:21 +0000 From: "Gavin" Subject: OT/PPP with V90 modem On 1998, Dec 30, Wed 9:32 am, "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller" wrote: > OT/PPP freezes Mac using v90 but not v32bis OT/PPP is known not to support V90. Try using "Free PPP" instead. http://www.rockstar.com Modems originally supplied for use with the Mac may have been specially made for it. There is NO standarization., and the pin configuation could be different to that used for modems supplied for use with Windows computers. If you get a new modem, it is advisable to get it from an outlet which will also supply an Apple Mac to Hayes compatible modem connecting lead. I *nearly* bought a V90 modem yesterday, having forgotten about OT/PPP! Let me know how you get on. The "G" man. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:11:26 +0000 From: susan mann Subject: palm pilots and other handheld's i recently purchased an Everex palm size pc-it had many more features than the palm pilot and had more screen space... i realize that the palm pilot is the only one that is mac compatible and am debating whether i will be able to function using a hand held pc that is not compatible with my powerbook one concern is that i cannot transfer info or back up - does anyone know of a way for them to be compatible (the everex has a windows operating system thanks -- sue m "click butt" http://www.emagination.com http://www.hotcoupons.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:40:13 -0500 From: Alan Stein Subject: Speed of MacInTax 1998 MacInTax 1998 seems to be much, much slower than any previous version, almost to the point of being unusable. On the advice of Intuit's technical support, I reinstalled MacInTax with extensions off and that improved the speed slightly, but far from enough. I've noticed many similar complaints expressed on Intuit's discussion boards on Excite, but I haven't seen any solutions there. I'm wondering whether anyone's managed to speed things up sufficiently, or heard anything hopeful from Intuit regarding a fix. I'm running it all on a PowerMac 7100/66 with 48 megs of ram and plenty of hard disk space. Alan H. Stein stein@math.uconn.edu http://www.math.uconn.edu/~stein ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:50:42 -0800 From: Douglas Anderson Subject: Text Redraw Happy New Year to you All!, This question is really for you programers out there, I'm assuming. I have a program called (Personal Press=81 2.0.1), The program was made by Aldus which I understand is know longer in business. So their is no longer any support for the program, or updates. I'm finding that with Mac OS 8.5.1 that the (Text Redraw) is really bad. If I pick a new tool from the tool kit the text will redraw so that it can be seen, and if I scroll down some more I have to pick another tool to get the text to redraw so it can be seen once again. Needless to say its a drag. Other than that the program works fine. My question is, is their anyway I can fix this problem using ResEdit? if so, How? Thanks for any help, Doug. Sincerely, Doug Anderson email:un162@victoria.tc.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:58:38 +0000 From: Bob Wall Subject: Trouble with icons I would like to change the icon for my trashcan. I call up info on the trash can and click the icon picture and nothing happens. Any ideas? The same goes for the icon for my Supra PC card. I was, however, able to change the icon for my Hard Disk. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:47:53 -0600 From: John Burwell Subject: Use Mac OS Help! In 8.5, it's great! >[Q]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)? Don't forget, guys -- Mac OS Help is better than ever. From the Finder, select "Mac OS Help" from the "Help" menu or press command-? to get to the most complete help system Apple has released yet. The coolest part: It responds to plain-english questions. 1. Open it up. 2. Type in "Where is OT/PPP?" 3. Click on the link to "Connecting to remote servers." The resulting page explains that you use the Remote Access control panel to connect to the internet via a modem. Not to come down on anyone or call anyone dumb... I'm just saying that it's easy to overlook the new, much more powerful help system after finding previous versions of Mac OS Help almost totally useless. Don't forget Mac OS Help! Whether you're a novice or a power user! j ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:30:38 -0800 From: "Daniel O'Donnell" Subject: Virex At 10:04 PM -0500 12/21/98, D. Scott Beach wrote: >"abrody" writes: >>Have the top three Mac virus detection utility programs merged? I went >to >>Virex's home page at Dr. Solomon and they say to download the beta version >>of Virex from McAfee's web site >> >>http://beta.mcafee.com/virex/download.html#virex >> >>So is now Datawatch part of Dr. Solomon, Part of McAfee, Part of Network >>Associates? > >Scott Beach: >Network Associates has purchased Dr. Solomon's Virex, relabeled it as their >own and released it as 5.9 . Viruscan 3.0.1 is pretty much defunct. They're >abandoning it in favour of Virex. Small loss as Viruscan stunk. They >realized this and in aquiring Virex have the superior scanning engine from >Dr. Solomon that they're using in all their products - Mac and PC. There are just a few people now managing the few remaining Mac products at Network Associates (Virex and netOctopus). They released an official statement about 1-2 weeks ago that NAI is actively shopping their Mac products to a reliable company and expect to be out of the Macintosh business completely once they've sold these. My interpretation: Virex will be sold to some Mac-based company because it is, as Scott Beach points out, simply the best Mac antivirus program on the market. NetOctopus however, will probably die. It is the best Mac sysadmin program out there, but there is becoming precious little market for that sort of product. I suspect NAI will not be able to sell it, and will simply let it go away quietly. PGPDisk, another Mac product from NAI, is also best of breed but with very little market. It's been ported to windows and will probably be allowed to die. Hope that helps, Dan O'Donnell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:05:29 -0500 From: chazzz Subject: Virtual PC/modem connect Using VPC/Win95. The modem setup useses 28880 as the max bps for GV modems. I'm using a K56flex/v.90 to log on to my ISP. Has anyone run into this inability to connect problem and if so, how to do a work around? Thanks for any and all suggestions. -- Discourage In-Breeding--Ban Country Music -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************