Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #143 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 24 Jul 98 Volume 16 : Issue 143 Today's Topics: (A) Get More Info (A CDEV/INIT) (A) SCSI Question (Q) OT bps measurer? (Q) screen redraw errors on a G3 (Q) WebSideStory not returning my calls [A] Best WWW browser for 68k Mac [A] CD-RW media readable in CD-ROM drives? [A] Printing PDF-files on a QMS-410 [A] scheduling file launches automatically [A] scheduling file launches automatically? [A] scheduling file launches automatically? [A] video editing, hmtl pics [Q] AppleShare over TCP/IP? [Q] Monitor resolution [Q] Where is Apple Interactive Music Toolkit ? Audio capture/input -- Vinyl to CDR Best WWW Browser for 68k Mac Best WWW Browser for 68k Mac Em@iler 2.0.2 long-standing problem... EUDORA Address Book madness Eudora Error When Sending Formatted Text Extension Icon Shapes Extension Icon Shapes G3 and Aptiva E26 network Get More Info Get More Info (A CDEV/INIT) Get More Info -> Snitch Iomega Drive Problems JavaScript development on a Macintosh Kaleidoscope / MS Word conflict? Key Finder Macintosh E-mail Resource Page My Mac won't shut down! Net configurations for 68K Macs Odd text in I.E.4.0 Odd text in I.E.4.0 Plus analog board failure Powerbook Duo 2300 upgrade? QD3D questions Quicktime 3.0 reliability simplest network simplest network (summary) What happened to the Digest V16 #129 ?? Where is TTConverter? WORD 98 File Formats The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . 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Or, click . * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at the URL below: * Search the archive at . Info-Mac volunteers include Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, and Liam Breck. The Info-Mac Digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, developers of Internet server software for the Macintosh, including Web and email publishing systems. We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #143" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:08:38 -0700 From: Kathy Brunetti Subject: (A) Get More Info (A CDEV/INIT) >Recently, my old computer just bit the dust. The hard drive doesn't spin >up anymore. Due to that fact, I can't get the most useful program that I >have ever seen off of it (among other things, *sigh*). > >The Extension was named "Get More Info" and what it did was the following: > >When selecting a file, you hold OPTION and either select "Get Info" from >the File menu in the Finder; a dialog box will pop up giving you several >things to choose. Among them are the ability to change the Creator/Type >of the file and hitting "OK" will change it. It also will allow you to >set files or folders Invisible, Inited, mess with the Alias settings... >much more, but I didn't memorize the init, just used it. > Tim, if you can't get it, try Snitch which does the same things. It's shareware & I couldn't live without it. You can download it form the Snitch Web site http://www.niftyneato.com, or from your favorite Info-Mac mirror. Kathy Brunetti--the "From" address is a fake, courtesy of my ISP; use this one instead: kbrunet (at) ns (dot) net *************** Kathy Brunetti ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:41:07 -0800 From: Julius Friede Subject: (A) SCSI Question Thanks to all the folks who responded to my question, Re: connecting an external SCSI device to the internal (Fast SCSI) SCSI bus of my 9600. It is possible, but no ready made cable is available that I have found. However, for under $15 you can buy the connectors and make one yourself. It's very simple. As to the practicality of doing this; it's probably not worth it for connecting a CD-R. Mine is a 4X recorder and works at 4X speed connected to the external bus (SCSI 1). It might be beneficial for an external Fast SCSI hard drive (like a SyJet, etc), but I don't have one and have not tried this. Thanks again for your comments. Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:59:52 -0400 From: "abrody" Subject: (Q) OT bps measurer? Dear Digest readers, Is anyone aware of a freeware/shareware that will send a ping down the line to a server, and return the bits per second up stream and downstream one receives? This software should be independant of the dialer used, and be compatible with OpenTransport. I am wondering if my Cable internet provider is giving me all the speed I should be getting. I looked at Peter Lewis's OT Watcher and couldn't find a place to issue a ping from. Any others? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:18:26 +0900 From: Tito and Shari Poza Subject: (Q) screen redraw errors on a G3 I just bought a new Desktop G3 266 mhz model with a ATI Rage graphics accelerator chip. It was already formatted with HFS+ and running System 8.1 when I got it. I formatted a Coniglio 3 GB hard drive with HFS+ and connected it to it. I've experienced several screen redraw errors, both in the Finder and in a few applications (Bryce & Netscape). When this error occurred in Bryce, I got a dialog box announcing it that it had experienced a redraw error and couldn't perform the desired operation. In Netscape, when I filled in a form online, the text I typed appeared several inches away from the box I typed it into. In the finder, portions of just closed windows remained on the screen until I covered them up with another active window and then closed it. I've also noticed that the tabs on the pop-up folders at the bottom of the screen often show different looking type on the tabs (at the right, the font appears thinner and on the left it appears bolder). Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it related to the accelarator chip, HFS+ or System 8.1? Other details: The computer has 96 MB of RAM. The disk cache is set at 3072k and virtual memory is on using 1 MB of VM (simply because it is recommended). I'm not running any RAM doubling software or functionality or cosmetic extensions (only Apple extenstions and printer and scanner drivers). This model also has a built-in Zip drive. Thanks for any input. Shari ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:21:53 -0400 From: "abrody" Subject: (Q) WebSideStory not returning my calls Dear Digest readers, One of the numerous hit counter people isn't returning my calls for help. As some people may have heard of http://www.hitbox.com here, I thought perhaps I could ask if somebody else knows of a better way to contact their tech support office. I have e-mailed the address on their web page with no response, and left a phone message at their contact site. Ever since the beginning of last week their onsite statistics web page has inaccurately ranked me as zeroth in ranking, even though I am in a category where my average number of hits would have ranked me as 300th out of a possible 1000. Any idea how to contact these people to get it fixed? Or does somebody know of a newsgroup where I can report this, and probably get a better response? Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:29:22 +0100 From: Ian Goldby Subject: [A] Best WWW browser for 68k Mac I have been innundated with the results of many people's experiences. Many thanks to you all. It appears that Netscape is more popular than Microsoft Internet Explorer. The majority vote went to Netscape version 2.02. It is pretty stable and uses about 5MB RAM. There is also a version of Netscape 4 without news or email built in which is more memory efficient than the full version 4, requiring 8MB. I was warned off Netscape 3.01, although IE 3.01 is said to be good. On a PowerMac with loadsa RAM, IE 4.01 is the bee's knees... MacWeb is very old and doesn't even support inline JPEG images. Coming soon to the Mac (2 months? I suspect longer from what I have read on their web site) is Opera, a browser already available for MS Windows, which apparently adheres strictly to the HTML standard, fits on a single floppy, and is lightning fast. I shall certainly be looking at this one. The PC version has had rave reviews. It is not free like the others, but is said to be well worth the money. Thanks to Michael White, Phil Lefebvre, muki pakesch, Allan Hunter, Ephraim Fithian, Philippe Helman, abrody, Guy Burke, Dennis Davis, and to anyone else whose reply I have not yet seen. Ian. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:34:34 -0500 From: Gib Henry Subject: [A] CD-RW media readable in CD-ROM drives? > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:04:12 -0400 > From: hope@unc.edu (Joni Hope Julian) > Subject: [A] CD-RW media readable in CD-ROM drives? [...snip...] > I haven't seen an answer to this yet, so here goes. CD-RW media can be > read by almost all new CD drives, and very few old CD drives. As I am > told, the critical age is 2 years. Newer than that should work, older > probably not. For instance, the CD drive on a PowerMac 8600 has no > problem with CD-RW media. I have also read CD-RW disks in a new Sun > Ultra 60. However, the external NEC 3x CD drive for the old Quadra 800 > does not read CD-RW media. Nor does my 5 year old stereo, my sweetie's > brand new IBM ThinkPad (well, no wonder!), *or* my mother's BRAND NEW > 5-CD player. But CD-R is pretty cheap even if it not erasable, so just > go for the CD-RW drive. I'm very happy with mine, and the ease of > backups has already made life easier. The only drawback is the speed is > not the fastest to burn a CD, and Toast takes over my entire Mac so I > can't play while Rome (or whatever CD) burns. :) Are you suggesting getting a CD-RW drive, but using CD-R media where there's a playback-compatibility concern? I'd appreciate the list's experienced advise on another matter. I'm considering some sort of CD for LocalTalk network backup. I understand LocalTalk is too slow and would cause data underruns, ruining any CD-R. One alternative is to back up to another HD, then copy the backup file to the CD-R. Another possibility is a CD-RW. However, I'm not clear how it would handle the slow-network problem: would it toast the CD-RW (probably not), just waste a track occasionally (likely), or write over any such temporary errors (too good to hope for)? And is the media price difference of 10x ($20 as opposed to $2) worth it?! Cheers, -- Gib Henry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:47:19 +0200 From: Willem Nijenhuis Subject: [A] Printing PDF-files on a QMS-410 Dear Readers, On 07-07-1998, I wrote: > Is there anybody out there who has succesfully printed pdf-files on a >QMS-410 > postscript 1 printer with any version of the Acrobat Reader? > I always get: > ERROR: typecheck > OFFENDING COMMAND: if I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions on this matter. Downgrading or upgrading the Acrobat Reader did not help. Buying a PostScript level 2 printer is no option for me. The Adobe web pages were no help either. Downgrading was in fact the solution, not the Acrobat Reader has to be downgraded, but the Adobe Type Manager. I downgraded ATM until I found a version that worked with Acrobat Reader 3.0 and my venerable printer: ATM vs. 3.6. Mac llCi, syst. 7.6.1, PostScript printer level 1, Version 52.4, Revision 94. Regards, Willem Nijenhuis ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 98 06:21:26 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: [A] scheduling file launches automatically >Other than Quickeys, what's the best way to automatically open a file at a >particular time (e.g., open an Excel workbook with a VBA Auto-Open macro >at 3AM every night)? Jonathan: Try using "DaemonChron": here in the InfoMac archives somewhere or this that was posted last month: [Archived as /info-mac/gui/midnight-express-101.hqx; 3276K] - Scott ************************** D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net A rabid Mac dude in Toronto. ************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:28:57 -0600 From: "IQTech-P.Reilly" Subject: [A] scheduling file launches automatically? >Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:59:19 -0700 >From: "Jonathan Kamien, Ph.D." >Subject: [Q] scheduling file launches automatically? > >Other than Quickeys, what's the best way to automatically open a file at a >particular time (e.g., open an Excel workbook with a VBA Auto-Open macro a= t >3AM every night)? > >Is a faceless AppleScript applet the way to go? >=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D >Jonathan Ben Kamien, Ph.D. >jkamien@idcomm.com The two best methods for me are: 1. cron -- http://gargravarr.cc.utexas.edu/ "Cron is a program that launches other programs (including AppleScript applets) at preset times. This scheduling of program launches can be as simple as =B3run this program every hour=B2 or =B3run this program at noon every day,=B2 or as sophisticated as =B3run this program every third minute during the four o=B9clock hour on the first Monday of every month.=B2 It is based directly on the cron d=E6mon in the BSD Unix operating system (there is no common code at any level, however), and has been in widespread use on the Macintosh since shortly after System 7.0 was released in 1991." 2. T-Minus Ten -- available from info-mac servers T-Minus Ten executes your AppleScript from the background (and not as a stand-alone application). For both method you may need Okey Dokey Pro (look on info-mac servers). Okey Dokey Pro presses the default button in modal dialogs after a time limit. ... Patrick L. Reilly, Chief Gnome, Valpatken, Ltd. Home of The Organized Macintosh Digest http://www.valpatken.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:25:18 -0500 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: [A] scheduling file launches automatically? At 4:59 PM -0700 7/10/98, Jonathan Kamien, Ph.D. wittily wrote: > Other than Quickeys, what's the best way to automatically open a file at a > particular time (e.g., open an Excel workbook with a VBA Auto-Open macro at > 3AM every night)? > > Is a faceless AppleScript applet the way to go? > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Jonathan Ben Kamien, Ph.D. > jkamien@idcomm.com There is Cron among the shareware or freeware group, and if you have Script Debugger {commercial} there is Scheduler included, and Scheduler {commercial} is available separately as I recall. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:12:05 -0400 From: Ed Ver Hoef Subject: [A] video editing, hmtl pics Brian Wessels wrote: > Just bought a $99 UMAX scanner, and it is definitely a good deal. Only >problem > is, I can't find any common sense guidelines on what scan resolution to >use. My > first instinct was 600dpi for a 600dpi printer, but you guessed it: the files > are huge. And they display many times original size, although I think that's > because the Mac is trying to express all the DPI using the screen resolution > (72dpi). Photoshop explains that this is what happens there, apparently it > happens everywhere? > > Even if you save as JPEG and it's only 1.6MB, a program such as >GraphicConverter > wants 26MB of memory to open it. And anyway, I don't know if conversion >is a way > to go, it seems to me I'm opening up to quality loss there. > > My goal: same-size photographic-quality scans of photographs that my writing > software (FrameMaker) and other tools won't choke on. I really don't want to > lose quality from my photos to my printed pages. > > My unhappy assumption: The only way you're going to use and keep that great > resolution you're getting is to pile on the memory and fill up the hard disk. > Deal with it. > > My need: Maybe a primer on the best approach to scanning and using scanned > material. The hardware and software vendors tell you how to do things, but > assume you know what you're going to want. Not an unreasonable assumption > until prices fell so every shmoe like me could start scanning their >photos into > documents. > > Thanks in advance. > ----------------------- > Brian Wessels > Senior Technical Writer > Microtest Enterprise Group | 22 Cotton Road | Nashua NH 03063 I certainly am no expert in this matter but I have learned, in talking to people who do this as a profession, that the appropriate scanning resolution depends on what you want to do with the picture after you have scanned it. If you simply plan to use it in a web site or anywhere else where the output medium is a computer screen, anything much higher than 72 dpi is probably wasted because of the resolution of most screens. For printer output probably 300 dpi is max because that is the max resolution of many printers. Even then the image will be pretty big and printing it will take quie a while becuse of the large amount of data to pass to the printer. For general purposes I usually use 200 dpi for both photos and line drawing stuff and find it to be generally satisfactory. I recently bought Photo Vista (for stitching a series of photos into a panoramic view) and found that, although it will handle photos at 200 dpi, you have to be pretty patient so for those cases I have been trying 150 dpi. I hope this is of some help to you. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:57:09 +0100 From: Allan Hunter Subject: [Q] AppleShare over TCP/IP? Thanks to a wonderful little piece of software called DAVE, I am sitting at home with shares volumes from my work-Mac mounted on my desktop. I use DAVE at work to mount PC volumes (it's a cross-platform workspace), and it did not at first occur to me to use DAVE to connect one Mac with another. Last night I was trying to accomplish this feat using AppleShare, clicking "Server IP Address", and typing in my TCP/IP address from work, to no avail. DAVE, however, works fine. (won't let me mount anyone else's shared Mac volumes 'cuz I'm the only one running DAVE, but I can mount my own, plus all the PC volumes I want). Got me wondering, though...OK, so I gather that AppleShare such as it ships with MacOS 8.1 does not function over TCP/IP. Am I remembering things that did not actually occur, or did I genuinely read at some point a press release concerning how some forthcoming version of AppleShare is going to be TCP/IP native? Or is this a feature of "AppleShare IP", whatever that might be? Is that perhaps to the built-in version of AppleShare what QuickTime Pro is to the free version or something like that? (I also note that OS 8.x comes with bits and pieces of Apple Remote Access, but they seem to be "client" pieces and the implication would seem to be that one needs the presumably commmercial "server" pieces on the remote machine in order to mount volumes using ARA client...??) Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:49:39 -0400 From: refried@email.unc.edu (Howard M. Fried) Subject: [Q] Monitor resolution I recently inherited an AppleVision 750 monitor (non-AV version) and connected it to a Quadra 660AV running Sys 7.5.5. I installed the latest AppleVision software (1.5.5). In 1024 X 768 mode, my choices for colors only go up to 256 while at 832 X 624 an option for thousands of colors is also available. Is the limit on 256 colors at 1024 X 768 due to a deficit of video RAM and, if so, is it possible to increase it? TIA, Howard Fried University of North Carolina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:48:36 +0200 From: Hans de Wolf Subject: [Q] Where is Apple Interactive Music Toolkit ? Does anybody know where I can find the Apple Interactive Music Toolkit ? This was a free toolkit to prepare Enhanced CDs (which can then be burned by Adaptec Toast). Links on the web showed that it was available from Apple at http://www.amp.com/imt/imt, but now seems to have disappeared ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 03:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse Hinson Subject: Audio capture/input -- Vinyl to CDR I would like to be able to connect my record turntable to my Power Tower Pro 250 to capture an audio signal to my drive and produce (for my own use) CD of some older vinyl records. Do you know of a board or device that has RCA-in jacks so I can make that connection. Also, please make a suggestion of the software that would be best suited for this operation. I am currently a user of TOAST by Adaptec, but it doesn't support that type of signal. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jesse Hinson jrhinson3@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:35:45 -0500 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: Best WWW Browser for 68k Mac At 10:42 PM +0100 7/10/98, Ian Goldby wittily wrote: > I'm currently using MS Internet Explorer 4.01 on my trusty LC475, with 20MB > RAM and System 7.1. It has been reasonably stable, but is slow and hogs > memory. I'm therefore looking for a much more modest browser that will run > faster and use less memory. > > I would like to keep tables and forms, but I am not bothered about Java, > Java Script, cascading style sheets, etc. Whatever I go for, it must be > more or less completely crash-proof even with a minimal RAM allocation. > Ideally, it should be able to use Eudora Lite as a helper application for > email. > > So, any suggestions? I have heard that MacWeb is good, but that the most > recent version has problems. Or should I go for an old version of Netscape? > Are there any other slim-line browsers? > > Many thanks! > > Ian I have a Quadra 610 and I have found that Explorer is the best. Personally I use, 4.01 and if that doesn't satisfy, you might try IE 3.01. MacWeb is small, but hasn't been updated in years and doesn't support JPEG inline and so you need to use an external helper like JPEGView, though it does work. :-} I don't know if it supports Eudora as a helper, probably so. Re: older versions of Netscape, I have Netscape Navigator 3.01 and it is a hog and will not support Eudora unless you hack its Prefs with ResEdit or use an AppleScript that hacks them for you. I have never used any of the Navigator versions previous to 3.01, but I would think they might have the same problem with Eudora and I do understand that they have bugs, etc. Sorry that I am not more encouraging. The best I can think of is get a 3.01 version of IE and run that. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 98 12:20:29 -0400 From: infomac@paleo.org (Edward Reid) Subject: Best WWW Browser for 68k Mac Ian Goldby writes: > I'm currently using MS Internet Explorer 4.01 on my trusty LC475, with 20MB > RAM and System 7.1. It has been reasonably stable, but is slow and hogs > memory. I'm therefore looking for a much more modest browser that will run > faster and use less memory. I did a couple of tests and found that NN 4.04 loaded pages over twice as fast as IE 4.01. And IE 4.01 is supposed to be a lot faster than 4.0. MacWeb is dead. I liked it, but it simply is unable to handle far too many pages on the web today. Not even complicated ones. Opera Software (www.operasoftware.com) recently announced that they have signed a contract for porting their Opera browser to the Mac. Opera has received rave reviews for high speed and small size. For a review, see http://db.netbits.net/getbits.acgi?nbart=04593 I have no idea how long the port will take. Opera will cost $35, but I plan to be first in line with my money when it's available for the Mac. Edward Reid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 98 13:45:41 -0400 From: Mark Fiske Subject: Em@iler 2.0.2 long-standing problem... Hey folks: I've got a problem with Claris Emailer 2.0.2 that I've had since I first installed it. First I open my PPP connection. Then, if I launch Emailer and try to get/send mail, it creates a log that states that I have a -3201 error. Now, if I have Emailer and some other PPP-network program (NetFinder, Internet Explorer, BetterTelnet) running at the same time, everything works fine with Emailer. Any solutions you may have to offer me will be greatly appreciated. please send PRIVATE e-mail, Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:41:27 +0100 From: Dudley Warrington Thomas Subject: EUDORA Address Book madness Can someone please explain to me HOW ON EARTH one goes about creating an address book entry and creating an alias of that account under a group directory. In other words, if John Smith was a friend and an employee of ACME TOOL & DYE and I wanted to have an entry for John Smith but also wanted a "group address" to mail everyone that is associated with ACME TOOL & DYE how would I go about accomplishing this? All replies appreciated CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS Suite 207 at 37 Store Street Bloomsbury, London WC1B-4AA UNITED KINGDOM Telephone 0044.(0)7050.028.797 Facsimile 0044.(0)171.242.6087 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:05:35 +0100 From: Dudley Warrington Thomas Subject: Eudora Error When Sending Formatted Text Could someone please tell me what EUDORA PRO 4 for Mac's "Error: 7:895" means? CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS Suite 207 at 37 Store Street Bloomsbury, London WC1B-4AA UNITED KINGDOM Telephone 0044.(0)7050.028.797 Facsimile 0044.(0)171.242.6087 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:04:20 +0000 From: Marlon Deason Subject: Extension Icon Shapes Wow! That IS a stumper! This the first Mac file I have ever not been able to find through www.filez.com (an otherwise killer app search engine). But next down the line in calibre is www.macdownload.com which turned up: The Informinit, a database of all know extensions, which does list it. That might give you more to go on. Also from the same search I turned up: FileBuddy, a droplet enabled app which gives you an expanded get info box for files which you drag on to it. Snitch, a control panel which permently expands your get info windows (sounds sort of like what you are looking for). Good Luck Marlon Deason marlond@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~marlond/macguerrillas/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:12:10 +0000 From: Marlon Deason Subject: Extension Icon Shapes I have wondered that myself. Apple has something called the Human Interface Guidrlines that says how things should look on the Mac. I don't think that get get too specific and it is only a guideline so not everyone follows it. What I really loose sleep over though is, who's mouth is featured on the Macintalk extension? My wife says it is Drew Barrymore. I'm not sure, but wouldn't Drew make a great Macintalk voice? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:22:53 -0400 From: "K. Brent Church" Subject: G3 and Aptiva E26 network In the next few months I will be attempting to connect a G3 and IBM Aptiva E26 together through 10baseT and thought to solicit any advice from all of the Info-Mac readers into what protocols to use, file sharing and the like. I'll be having them networked to both play games and share files. TIA ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 98 06:39:39 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: Get More Info >Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:30:21 -0700 (PDT) >From: PwrSurge >Subject: Get More Info (A CDEV/INIT) > >Recently, my old computer just bit the dust. The hard drive doesn't spin >up anymore. Due to that fact, I can't get the most useful program that I >have ever seen off of it (among other things, *sigh*). > >The Extension was named "Get More Info" and what it did was the following: > >When selecting a file, you hold OPTION and either select "Get Info" from >the File menu in the Finder; a dialog box will pop up giving you several >things to choose. Among them are the ability to change the Creator/Type >of the file and hitting "OK" will change it. It also will allow you to >set files or folders Invisible, Inited, mess with the Alias settings... >much more, but I didn't memorize the init, just used it. > >Anyway, due to the crash, I can't get it, and can't find it (yet) on the >internet. If anybody has it, would they upload it to Info-Mac? Or if >it's already on Info-Mac, can they please tell me what directory it is in? >PLEASE? > >I want this file so bad, still! > >--Tim >timjudd@teleport.com Tim: GMI was by Scott Fenton and is GREAT! Scott now has a version for Contextual Menus in OS 8 too. I don't think he's posted it to InfoMac but perhaps he can be persuaded to do so. Scott Fenton: It looks as if you've got fans everywhere. Is it time to post to Info-Mac? Will you accept more beta testers? Maybe a few hundred? - Scott Beach ************************** D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net A rabid Mac dude in Toronto. ************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:42:20 -0500 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: Get More Info (A CDEV/INIT) At 11:30 PM -0700 7/11/98, PwrSurge wittily wrote: > Recently, my old computer just bit the dust. The hard drive doesn't spin > up anymore. Due to that fact, I can't get the most useful program that I > have ever seen off of it (among other things, *sigh*). > > The Extension was named "Get More Info" and what it did was the following: > > When selecting a file, you hold OPTION and either select "Get Info" from > the File menu in the Finder; a dialog box will pop up giving you several > things to choose. Among them are the ability to change the Creator/Type > of the file and hitting "OK" will change it. It also will allow you to > set files or folders Invisible, Inited, mess with the Alias settings... > much more, but I didn't memorize the init, just used it. > > Anyway, due to the crash, I can't get it, and can't find it (yet) on the > internet. If anybody has it, would they upload it to Info-Mac? Or if > it's already on Info-Mac, can they please tell me what directory it is in? > PLEASE? > > I want this file so bad, still! > > --Tim > timjudd@teleport.com > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "If the opposite of 'pro' is 'con' ... > does that mean the opposite of 'progress' is 'congress'??" -- Unknown > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't know about "Get More Info", you might try Snitch. I understand it does the same things. {don't use it myself}. I like to use FileTyper and its FileTyper Menu, so I also would advise you to check out FileTyper. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:52:39 -0700 From: Herb Kroemer Subject: Get More Info -> Snitch In #138, Tim Judd asks about where to find the venerable "Get More Info" CDEV/INIT. My advice is to switch to "Snitch", which does everything GMI did -- and then some. It is on InfoMac under cfg/snitch-252.hqx Herb Kroemer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:05:07 +1000 From: "Stewart Smith" Subject: Iomega Drive Problems >Something similar just happened to me with an internal Iomega Jazz >drive. There was also a clicking noise after which the disk became >unreadeable. I had to buy the TechTool Plus utility to try to recover my >data which was in HFS+ format. Iomega was also willing to replace the >drive and cartriges - although in my case, it was still under warranty. Well, I've had similar problem with my Zip drive that I bought a few years ago (when they were nearly twice what they are now). I read somewhere that there is a solution that may work. It's called "resetting the drive" or something like that. I haven't had any troubles on that drive since I tried this. What you do is hold down the eject button while restarting the machine (it may be turning the drive on, i can't remember but if the first dosn't work, try the second). From memory, this resets the drive's internal stuff and makes it work better or something. If needed I can try and find the original article. Please email me with your results. --------------------------- Stewart Smith Advanced God at Purple Grapefruit web - http://vll.com/purplegrapefruit/ mail - purplegrapefruit@kagi.com ICQ - 6734154 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:11:11 +0200 From: Jacob Palme Subject: JavaScript development on a Macintosh I want to develop and debug Javascript in web pages on a Macintosh. Which tool should I use? Would Symantec Visual Cafe help, or is that only a tool for development of Java, not for Javascript? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:39:31 +0000 From: ams@indigo.ie (Tara Merrigan) Subject: Kaleidoscope / MS Word conflict? Dear Macophiles, I have used Word 5.1a very happily for over 5 years now, and find that it simply WILL NOT launch when I have Kaleidoscope loaded. It starts the welcome to Word box and then quits with an error 1 or 2. I tried trashing my prefs; it asked me to locate the Word Commands folder & then did the usual death thing. This is rather disappointing! It really doesn't seem to be an extension conflict, I've tried loading just KS & no luck.... Anyone got any ideas ?? (Using OS 8.1 - so stable I wonder if I'm missing something!) Tara ams@indigo.ie p.s. Kaleidoscope works just fine in my office, where I have nice reliable (if a little uninteresting) ClarisWorks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:56:23 -0700 From: "Martin S. Zibulsky" Subject: Key Finder >> I have recently upgraded to MAC OS 8.0 and one of my applications doesn't >> appear to be working - Key Finder. I don't want to reinstall the old OS and >> was hoping somebody could help me remember where I might have gotten it >> from. It is an application similar to the built in OS application Key Caps. >> I have searched the info-mac archives with no luck. Any assistance would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Phil > >I *think* that came with an old version of Norton Utilities, or something. >I don't recall as I don't have it installed. > >I suggest you get one these shareware applications: ASCII Chart, Font List, >FontView, or ViewFont and see if they would be what you like and that work >as expected. Hi Phil: It certainly did come with Symantec's Norton Utilities (commercial software) as a Desk accessory (not an application) in their 2x versions to 3.5. Last version it was included in was 3.5. After that they dropped KF and some other neat and usefull stuff, like Fastback and came out with Fileguard, an Improved Filesaver, better Speed Disk and some other stuff. I run with a Powermac 7100/80 and OS 8.0. Keyfinder still works fine as needed. After seeing your post, I just tested it and it's still working just dandy. Sits in the Apple Menu Items folder therefore accessed from the Apple menu any time needed. For freeware, or is it shareware, you may want to look for Pop Char. Sort of like a handy dandy popup menu, that lets you drop in special characters in your document on the fly. I never used it, so I may be a little off in it's description, but lots of others have and could fill you in more about it, also if it works in OS 8.0 and 8.1. Perhaps this info would be helpful to you. Regards, Martin Zibulsky _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ superush@amug.org "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:45:12 -0700 From: "Diane M. Ross" Subject: Macintosh E-mail Resource Page Check out the Macintosh E-Mail Resource Page(MERP) Besides having information for all the Mac email clients available in one place, you can find out all about Outlook Express, Claris Emailer and EmailTools. We will soon add a Eudora section too. The FAQs on Claris Emailer haven=B9t been updated in quite a while so this is the only place to get the latest info. There are also tutorials to help get folks started. We welcome any contributions and suggestions for improvement. Here's the official announcement: This announcement is from: Diane Ross and Omar Shahine We are pleased to announce the launch of the Macintosh E-mail Resource Page (MERP). There are many great E-mail clients available for Macintosh users, and this information is spread out on the World Wide Web. This page is here to serve as a starting point for everything Macintosh and E-mail. The MERP is designed for new users shopping around for a new e-mail client, or for current users that are looking for valuable information about their current E-mail applications. Links to those resources are categorized below. As time goes on we will continue to update this page with new and relevant information. However, what we will not do is provide redundant information to you. The various "Unofficial" sites about Eudora, Outlook Express, Mailsmith, and Emailer have a great deal of information related to those applications. There is a lot of information about e-mail clients that is universal. There are also many shareware and commercial products that function with all the e-mail clients available. Most of the links on this site point to external sites and are in no way associated with the Macintosh E-mail Resource Page. Links that point to pages that are hosted by the MERP are indicated. Please feel free to send in feedback about this site and I hope you will find it a valuable resource. You may visit the site at Cheers, Diane Ross ------------------------------------------------ Check out the Unofficial Claris Emailer and EmailTools Page...Tips,Tools and Highlights The Macintosh E-Mail Resource Page The Unofficial Outlook Express Page ----------------- The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. -- Ayn Rand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:27:40 +0000 From: Christine Ilas Subject: My Mac won't shut down! Help! My Power Macintosh 6500/250 occasionally develops a tic that goes like this: I select "Shut down." The Mac seemingly re-opens the Finder, cycling from a blank desktop back to a full, ready-to-go Finder. The only way I can shut down is to cut power. Sometimes I've been able to short-circuit this loop by selecting "Sleep," waking up the computer, then selecting "Shut down," however this doesn't always work. I'm not sure, but I think it may be connected to my use of QuarkXpress - it seems to happen more often when I've been in this program. Any ideas? Christine Ilas cristi@voyager.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 08:56:39 -0400 From: Matthew Mitchell Subject: Net configurations for 68K Macs A few digests ago, we had a question from someone with an LC who wanted to know what browser would offer the best combination of features, compatability, and performance. Let me take that one step further: what would the most reliable networking setup for a 68K Mac look like? I'm configuring a IIci to give to a non-profit org, and want to minimize support calls I get from them. Dial-up connection: MacTCP? MacSLIP? FreePPP? Open Transport? Browser: MacWeb? Mosaic/Netscape? Opera? News: NewsWatcher? NewsHopper? Mail: Eudora Light? And how would these vary among the different flavors of 68K, like '020 or '030? We could go back to old editions of the digest, or maybe Adam Engst's books, but there may be more recent software that still works with the old generation of Macs. Unlike Windows-standard machines, there are a lot of ten-year-old Macs still out there doing useful work. Matt Mitchell mmitchel@libertynet.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:54:29 -0400 From: Rob Somerville Subject: Odd text in I.E.4.0 -------------------- Begin Original Message -------------------- Message text written by "Dennis L. Davis" "Then before you install, delete {or disable by moving it out of the Syst= em folder completely or using a Extensions Manager} all of the old IE stuff,= look in the System Folder, the Extensions Folder, and the Preferences Folder. That way you will be doing a clean install of Internet Explorer 4.01." -------------------- End Original Message -------------------- Thanks Dennis. I actually got hold of Internet Explorer 4.0a on CD just before I got your message so I decided to take your advice except that I used the CD program instead of downloading IE4.01. I reckoned that if it didn't work then I could download and do it properly. I dragged all IE stuff to the trash can and emptied it so that I could do= a clean install as you suggested and it all worked a treat. Thanks again, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:53:07 -0500 From: "Dennis L. Davis" Subject: Odd text in I.E.4.0 At 6:27 AM -0400 7/11/98, From: Rob Somerville wittily wrote: > I have had problems running Internet Explorer 4.0 on my StarMax 3000/200 > accessing it either through CompuServe or directly. > > When I start IE4.0 it attempts to open the CompuServe Home page and shows > some text in characters some of which are not normally used in English. > After a few seconds this disappears and the banner 'Welcome to CompuServe" > appears. Below this is some more odd text which is where, I think, a > picture or graphic used to be. > > A 'News Headline' banner and the Heading 'Top Stories' can be seen, > followed by more odd text. > > Hot Downloads, Downloads of the week and Weather are followed by more odd > text which spreads well beyond the width of the screen. I have attempted t= o > include some of this odd text next. > > s@ =D8X =D8 U =A5m\ 4 =D8 =D1 HB H" = =E0=AD > =BF =C7 H( =B1=EE =B5t =A5m\ =A5z GO^ = =B5' =B5p =E6V > F =AD 9 P 9 P U > =AD=C4 `B . 6 =E0=C4 P L%=A9 - F=AD=EE =C4 =FF )=D9 = =EA =EB=EE =B4=B6 > =EB=EE 4=E5 @ U =ADB . n=A5 =AD" . O=AF= F=AD=EE 9 > I can move to another Web page but I still get the odd text appearing. > > I have tried changing some of the Internet Explorer preferences but, since > I have no idea what I am doing, I am getting nowhere. Can anybody help? > > Rob_Somerville@CompuServe.com Several suggestions, download Internet Explorer 4.01 as it has some fixes for various bugs. Then before you install, delete {or disable by moving it out of the System folder completely or using a Extensions Manager} all of the old IE stuff, look in the System Folder, the Extensions Folder, and the Preferences =46older. That way you will be doing a clean install of Internet Explorer 4.01. Do the install and restart. If the problem persists call the Explorer Tech support line, you get 90 days free tech support for Explorer. The Tech Support people are both knowledgeable and helpful. I should know as I have called them. :-} Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back. ICQ#5066430 Blessings, Denny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:43:36 -0000 From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" Subject: Plus analog board failure >>Here's another strange one. Thanks for putting up with all the illnesses >>of my Antique Plus, 68000 4MB RAM, SYS 7.0: >Wow, this takes me back. Whacking the side of a MacPlus to get it to boot >was a sure sign that the analog board had burned out. Actually, it was There are a couple of diodes along the top of the Plus's analog board which smoke at the slightest provocation. The originals are unmarked (or when I've got to them, the marks have already burned off :-) but scrounging in the junkbox has usually yielded a workable substitute. Whatever I put in there seems to get REAL HOT, though. If you don't recall a smoke leak, then maybe the problem is just a dry joint (sure sounds like it) - I'd guess around the FBT since it is apparently involved in sourcing all the voltages used in the entire machine. -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer) Home: Resume: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:13:01 -0700 From: Bill Rausch Subject: Powerbook Duo 2300 upgrade? Hi all, At the office, we've got a Duo 2300c with docking station and are wondering if there is any upgrade path (official or otherwise) for this machine? It is very convenient and has been a wonderful computer for us, but is pretty darn slow by today's standards. Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:25:04 GMT From: nava@my-dejanews.com Subject: QD3D questions Hi, I have a couple of QD3D questions: 1. Can I somehow regulate the thickness of the linear geometry objects such as line, ellipse and so on? 2. I have two objects: a box with a texture applied and an ellipse. The ellipse object lies over the box. Both associated with the certain view and they are being rendered in the same loop. The view has a Phong illumination shader submitted. Now the question: how can I get the effect that the ellipse does not reflect light and stays solid when rotating the view? I tried to make set of attribute for ellipse object and assign there a null illumination shader as a surface shader attribute. It didn't succeed at all. 3. What is uv parametrization. How to manage it? 4. When I entering any QD3D application I get the debugStr user break which says Error Loading:DriverServicesLib (-2804) and then immediately the other user break Warning: Failed to load Extension 1. How do I get off this breaks? 5. How can I draw an arc or torus segment with QD3D? Thanks for your help -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jul 98 06:55:32 -0400 From: "D. Scott Beach" Subject: Quicktime 3.0 reliability >Just wondering about what kind of results users on the list have been >getting with the new Quicktime 3.0 >I was going to install it, but heard about the bugs, and didn't want to >risk it since I use quicktime quite a bit. > >Thanks for any experiences and insight, Jarome: It's been behaving just fine for me but there is a little irritating thing Apple has done that you have to work around. QT 2.5 could do lots of stuff and you could access all its features through the Movie Player. Now QT 3 can do even more stuff but apple tries to get you to buy the Pro version of QT3 by limiting Movie Player's access to most of these functions. You can beat this by retaining Movie Player 2.5.1 when you install QT3 and then trashing Movie Player 3 and using MP 2.5.1 instead. That way you'll get access to all the keen new features of 3.0 without all the crappy little advertising bits everytime you use it. - Scott ************************** D. Scott Beach, sbeach@front.net A rabid Mac dude in Toronto. ************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 98 12:46:21 -0400 From: infomac@paleo.org (Edward Reid) Subject: simplest network dead nancy writes: > so: what's the simplest way to connect two ethernet-enabled > macs? do i need a hub? all i want is to share some files, > but simply physically connecting them with ethernet cable > seems to do nothing. A hub provides a crossover, connecting transmit pair to receive pair. To do this without a hub, you need a crossover cable. This works fine, but only with two devices. If you need a third, you need a hub. If you start with a crossover cable and then get a hub, make sure you get a hub with a non-crossed port (many have one port switched, crossed or not). Otherwise you will have to rewire one end of the crossover cable to make it straight-thru. Here are two resources I found extremely valuable: http://wwwhost.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/descript-10quickref.html http://www.sustworks.com/interests/ethernet.html The first is far more extensive; the second is clear and simple and has some very good wiring pictures. If you have any interest in giving both Macs Internet access via a single PPP connection, check out IPNetRouter on the home page of the Sustainable Softworks site (www.sustworks.com). You can buy prewired crossover cables, but not in nearly the variety of straight-through cables. If you already have an RJ-45 crimping tool, you can easily make your own. Otherwise it's more economical to pay someone to make it. With 5-port hubs available for under $60, consider whether it's worth the extra hassle (even though it's only a little) of using the crossover. I eventually straightened mine. When you have the wires correct, the green lights on both Ethernet cards (and on the hub if you are using one) will light up. No light means bad wiring. Edward Reid (please reply to edward@paleo.org, not the address in the header) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 08:40:29 +0000 From: "dead nancy" Subject: simplest network (summary) hey, everybody. thanks to everyone (quickest on the draw was uncle al bloom) who let me know that the simplest network consists of two ethernet-enabled machines and a crossover cable, available at datacomm warehouse (among other places.) xox, dead nancy http://home.earthlink.com/~deadnancy/ see you in hell! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 21:39:08 +0200 From: Jon Naude Subject: What happened to the Digest V16 #129 ?? Hi, first of all I want to say I think you guys at Info Mac are doing a fantastic job, keep it up please! In the summary of 'today's topics' a long list was given, including a question I was also very interested in: "mac driver for 3com 10/100 ethernet card wanted" The discussion only got as far as the 12th out of 30 topics and then ended... guess someone fell asleep at his terminal.... :-) If possible, please include the missing topics in one of your future Digest issues. Thanks. Oh yea, I'm also looking for a Mac (PB1400) driver for a 3Com card, in my case its the Megahertz 10/100 LAN +56K modem card. I've tried various other drivers, no luck. I got this PC-card (with wintel sw) to Betatest, but I'm Mac-only.. Anyone know whether I would have more luck if I installed Virtual PC? Jon Naude ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:25:55 +0200 From: Andreas.Prilop@altavista.net (Andreas Prilop) Subject: Where is TTConverter? Where is TTConverter 1.5? It used to be at info-mac/font/util/tt-converter-15.hqx Did you remove it from your archive? If so, why? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 14:37:58 +0100 From: Dudley Warrington Thomas Subject: WORD 98 File Formats Alright! I don't think that I am TOO thick.... but WORD 98 for Mac has me confused & frustrated. I have created WORD TEMPLATES (stationery) and saved them as read-only files. I have come back in later sessions and opened the same files. i have edited the text in the documents and gone to SAVE the files BUT, WORD greys out the SAVE AS FILE TYPE pull down menu and shows (greyed out) "Document Template" (and, won't let me change to another format) Question: How on earth can I convince WORD to let me change the file type to "Word Document"? 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